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*The difference between "owning" and "claiming" a right*

*we as a team believe that there is a difference between "Owning" and "Claiming" a right. "Owning" and "Claiming" a right can have many different meanings. To claim a right is to take a right that was not previously yours. Its almost like saying that the first ammendment protects your right to show whatever you want, even if its violating the common good. An to break this down a little its like saying that a car that was originally your friends, is now yours. Even if they didnt give it to you.
* On the other hand, owning a right is to have a right that was originally yours from the beggining, and you have a choice whether you want to give it away or not. So the difference between these two is: when you own a right its yours forever, and cant no one take it and violate it. However, in order to claim a right you must follow the correct steps. For a example: the first amendment is a right that you owned sence birth. It can also be something that can never be given away or shared, such as your natural rights. It's almost like when you cut down a tree and make a house from it, that house is yours to own because you worked for it, and no one else. On the other hand claiming a right is like claiming a a apartmant thats owned by the landlord. It's almost like saying that, the garden with fruits already in it is yours. Maybe even, when you look at peice of land and say that the land is yours, and you didn't put no effort, or hard work into getting this land. You just tried to claim it as yours on first sight. However, when you take the correct steps such as, going to the istinct of building homes on that land, or maybe even growing fruit. Just any type of hard work that you do to that land. Then that's when you can say that the land is yours and you own it. Which you would own it due to the key words "Hard work." This is the correct steps to owning something.

*In what ways , if any, is the ideas of social contract related to the concept of rights?*

*A social contract is the people giving consent to the government to protect their rights in exchange for some of their rights. An it was also said that if the government took advantage of there power, then they had a right to rebel aginst the government. An this Idea was established due to John Lockes theory.
*In other words, this is in relation to the concept of rights because in order for a social contract to work, a person gives up some of their rights in order to have the government protect thier natural rights and keep anyone else from infringing on them. An vise versa, in order for your rights to be protected, you must have a social contract established.

Three important ideas:

  • Citizens are offered a chance to participate on political campaigns, and help get the vote out and have a voice in shaping party platforms.
  • Cogressional represinitives rely on constiuent (citizens) to advise them on issues of public policy.
  • Civic engagement has personal benifits, including the following:

-Becoming more self confident
-learning how to affect decisions
-making new friends
Two ways this reading helps you answer the unit question.

  • this text helps me see the effects of how participating in civic duties.
  • gives me a better picture of what a good citizen looks.

One question you still have about the reading.

  • none

Three important ideas
• Citizenship cannot be taken away only loss. Only taken if found guilty for treason.
• As a citizen, we have responsibilities to obey the law of the land, pay taxes, if male must register in some type of selective service, and serve jury duty.
• The bill of rights and the 14th amendment applies to all people in the US not only citizens. So does the first amendment.

Two ways this reading helps you answer the unit question.
• This text tells me some of the things citizens are qualified to do such as vote, and things.
• This reading tells the history behind citizenship and what it truly means for different aspects and laws. Because of that I can give a clearer, more precise thought out answer. That is supported by a lot of evidence to back it up.

One question you still have about the reading

Re: Unit 6
tasheyatasheya 02 Dec 2010 03:18
in discussion Period 3 / Unit 6 » Unit 6

Civic leads up to the participation, the people feel that should to helping the community as a whole. Everyone works together. Organizations are formed to help acheive the common good and groups are focused on their individual problems.

Re: Unit 6 by tasheyatasheya, 02 Dec 2010 03:18

-establishment clause prohibits congress from making a national religion. there are three ways the court interprets the establishment clause, broad, narrow, and literal interpretation.

-free excersie clause has two parts:
freedom to believe
freedom to practice beliefs

- to decide cases for free exercise clause the supreme court has to determine
if the law is neutral, and if it applies to everyone, then the law doesnt violate free exercise clause
if the law is neutral, then the government must hace a good reason for enacting the law.

two ways this reading helped you answer your questions:
- it helps me understand free exercise clause

one question you still have about this reading:

3-2-1- reading notes by ajahodgeajahodge, 02 Dec 2010 03:08

Three important ideas pg. 257-259
1.)Americans can participate in the national government by basically getting involved into different parts of the national government:
-Participating in oarty participation which is opened to all Americans
-Congressional Representation groups to advise the national governmtent on issues
-Also the president seeks advise from citizens but mainly NGO's and Voluntary association.

2.)Changing the voting turnout, another method of keepin the citizens engaged it was said that citizens were complaing because they didnt have enough time to vote so there were suggestions:
-Extending time for voter making the polls 24hours
-Make the voting process a week instead of a day
-Making voting a holiday so that citizens would be able to take off work

3.)Civic Participation connects with self intere by helping out the community this helps people become more confident within themselves, make new friends and gain important contact etc. this can help the citizens in the future. Being in the common good can help make a voice in citizens in their community through civic participation.
Two ways this reading helps you answer your unit question(s)
1.) The relationship between civic participation and the common good

2.) How it is benefitial and how to get Americans involved in the national government as well as the community

One question you still have about the reading

Three important ideas pg.253-257
1.) Americans are important to the civic life because they are needed so that the government can determine what problems are needed to be solved
2.) Voluntary associations work to make their community better by solving public problems

3.)Americans are able to participate in local and state government, they can be apart of local by taking an active role in determing how much of the tax is being spent

Two ways this reading helps you answer your unit question(s)
1.)Gives a more broader definition of civic engagement and how the Americans can be involved
2.) The reading connects towards can relate to civic virtue

One question you still have about the reading.
What is Faction??????

Three important ideas:
1)The Establishment Clause prohibits Congress from making a national religion.
There are three ways the Courts interpreted the Establisment Clause: Broad, Narrow, and Literal Interpretation

2)The Free Excersise Clause has two parts to the free excersise of religion: one is freedom to believe and the other is the freedom of practicing
beliefs (However, the practice of religious beliefs may be limited to protect other's values and interests)

3)In order to decide cases for the Free Excersise Clause, the Supreme Court has to determine
-that if the law is neutral and it applies to everyone, then the law doesn't violate the Free excersise clause
- If the law isn't neutral and it doesn't apply to everyone, then the government must have a good reason fro enacting the law.

Two ways this reading helps me answer your questions
1) It helps me understand how the Free Excersise Clause protects individuals' rights.

2) It helps me understand the interpretations of the Establishment Clause

One question you still have about the reading:
1) No Questions

Three important ideas:

  • A social contract is an agreement among people to set up a government, and obey its laws
  • Rights are moral or legal claims justified in ways that are generally accepted within a society
  • The right to own property is the right or legal claim that allows a person to own things and transfer them to others

Two ways this reading helps you answer your questions:

  • Knowing the definition of what it means to own will give us a better idea of what it means to claim and own
  • Defining what a social contract is will help us know the colonist beliefs, and how it is connected to the concept of rights

One question you still have about the reading:

  • Claiming and owning have two different meanings, so why did the definition use both of those words?

Three important ideas
Many voluntary associations in the United States are categories:

  • Religious organizations

-help with sick
-care for the poor/elderly

  • Social organizations

-sponsering athletic events for youth
-collect books for public libraries

Participating in civic life in your country:
-brings a individuals more attached to their area and makes them whole
-Individuals should participate because how the people use their power affects their community

Two ways this reading helps you answr your unit question(s)

  • Gives me better understand what a citizen does in his community to better it.
  • Shows me examples of what a citizen can do to better the place where they live.

One question you still have about the reading.

  • none

we the people pg.94
how did the anti-federalists philosophy shape their objections to the constitution?

-the anti-federalist believed that the constitution would create a government that the people could not conTrol.they also believed that each branch of the national govt can turn to the anti-federalist was against the constitution.
-there were arguments that proved that the constitution gives congress to much power to make laws.also with the constitution it gives the president the power to grant pardons for crimes and use the power to commit crimes without getting in trouble.
-the constitution make it so that treaties are the supreme law of the land. another point was that the powers of the executive branch are mixes together than seperated because the president and congress do not check each other.

-it shows that congress has so much matter under any circumstance
-it also help me agree because it point out how congress can make laws if they believe its "necessary and proper"

-If the anti-federalist believe that congress had too much power did James Madison also agree that the congress and the president had to much power?

Re: Unit 6
tasheyatasheya 01 Dec 2010 02:46
in discussion Period 3 / Unit 6 » Unit 6

Both citizens and the government have duties that have to perform and responsibilities that they have. Both have to protect individual rights ann have to promote the common good. The citizen have to monitor the government to make sure they are doing their jobs correctly. Citizens also have to influence the government too but changing idea or laws in the government.Being a citizen is a important job because the government is made up of the people and thats where the government gains it power from. The citizen participate in civic participation by being involve in the community such as helping organizing events or just voting. There are some things only the government can do such as arresting individuals for commiting crime. Citizen also have a thing called civic life that deals with their personal life and making decisions for themselves.

Re: Unit 6 by tasheyatasheya, 01 Dec 2010 02:46

"what is the role of the president in the american constitutional system?" unit 4. lesson 23. pg 162

framers imagine the president as an official above partisan politics, that is, a person not decated to a particular polotical party
framers didn't want the president to be a monarch, but they want the president to be energetic.
—president Jackson used veto against bills that were unconstitutional and those he viewed as bad policy.

presidents used this authority during depresion and wars time, because he have to take care that the laws be faith fully executed and to faithfully execute the office of the president and preserve, protect, and defend.
the conception of tyhe power of the Constitution of the Commander-in-Chief had been expanding since the time of Abraham Lincoln because presidents veto things and the power s had increased. fro exmaple the president has used the commander in chief power to send american troops to countries abroad, they make treaties, they appoint ambassadors and consuls and also receive ambassadors.

—why does the president share powers with congress?

Question #2 - Text #3

3 most important ideas:

-James Madison stated that "Leglislative, Executive and Judiciary departments should be seperate and distinct, so that no person should exercise the powers of more than one of them at the same time."

-Powers of the government should be so divided and balanced among several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by th others.

-It is equally evident, that neither of them ought to possess directly or indirectly, an overruling influence over the others in the administration of their respective powers.

2 connections to the unit question:

-Agreeing with James Madison by saying the Legislative branch did abuse its power because the Constitution had been flagrantly violated by the Legislature in a variety of important instances.

- Also agreeing that the Legislative branch derives a superiority in our government from other circumstances.

1 question you still have:

-How did the make it so that all 3 branches of government were equal?

Re: Question #2 -- Reading #3 by Alexus Alexus , 01 Dec 2010 01:01

Three important ideas:
1) In the seventeenth century, the Reformation period began when Europe had a series of religious wars.
Every religious group, including Protestants and Catholics were fighting for political power.
The solution was to hav an established church.

2) Religious intolerance wasn't allowed, so anyone who failed to support state religions or attend public worship,
would be taxed. The idea of seperation of church and state was brought up by Theologian Roger Williams, who was then exiled from the
Massachusetts Bay Colony.

3) Diverse religious groups were growing so fast, it was impossible to have one church dominate others. In the eighteenth century, Americans
believed that freedom of religion and belief were rights for the individual, and every individual has the right to say or believe whatever they wanted.

Two ways this helps you answer your unit questions
1) It gave me the history of how the era of Reformation led to the idea of seperation of church and state.
2) It also talked about howthe idea of freedom and religion gave people an idea that they needed a free society.

One question you still have about the reading
1) How would having an established church influence society today?

The Federalist No. 48 (text 3)
We The People Book-page 80-83

I agree with James Madison when he argues that in a representaive republic the legislative branch is the most powerful and most likely to abuse it power. The Legislative branch has the authority to make and change laws, the executive branch carries out the laws that the legislative branch makes and the the judicial branch was needed for deciding cases involving its laws. According to delegates who agreed with Locke, "the power to make laws is the greatest power a government posesses." And the legislative branch makes and change laws. The executive branch just follows all the laws made bythe legislative branch and the executive branch just enforces the laws made by legislative. According to Text 3, "The judiciary and executive members were left dependent on the legislative for their subsistence in office…" Meaning the executive branch and judicial branch just follow the legislative branch.

Re: Question #2 -- Reading #1 by lenneitalenneita, 01 Dec 2010 00:44

Chapter 17:
How Did the Civil War Test and Transform the American Constitutional Sytem
Review of the text: The purpose of the lesson was between the months of December 1860 and June 1861, 11 southern states had withdrawn from the United States and formes the Confederate States of America. The war began in April of 1861 and it raised conflicts between the balance of rights, president power, and the relationship between the states and national government.

Important Ideas:
1. The Constitution gave the national government no enumerated power over slavery within the states. Many people of slavery was connected to abolitionists, which were the people who disagreed and said the word slave nor slavery was in the Constitution.
2.Imporatant controversial Supreme Cort case that was during the Civil War was Dred Scott vs Sandford. Drea Scott was enslaved African American who was taken to the free states of Illnois. Scott had sued because he was being held against his will.
3. Slavery was the main reason that the Southern States withdrawn fom the Union.

2 connections: Page (119) President Lincoln election and " We the people of the Confedrate states, each states acting in sovereign and independentcharacter…."

My question: How did the Supreme Court case Dread Scott vs Sandford connect to the summer of 1862 when President Lincoln became convinced to abolish slavery in states?
How did laws passed in Southern states ifd majority of voting booths were white?

Re: Questio #1 -- Reading #1 by KayCKayC, 30 Nov 2010 07:35

The Federalist No.48
[47]James Madison
three important ideas
-there are three branches that has different powers and limits. the three branches are legislative,executive,and judiciary.people believe that the legislative branch is the branch that holds the most power.the founders never recollected the danger from legislative unsurpations and the power lead to tyranny.the legislative department has access to the pockets of the people.
-for the state of virgina the constitution declared that the three departments cannot be intermixed

One: I believe that the difference between "claiming" and "owning" a right are significantly different things. Owning a right is a right that belongs to you and is yours to do as you please with. As to where "claiming" a right, is to take a right that was not previously yours. which is not true and is very important in realizing the difference. because you do not claim your natural rights, but own them.

Two: The colonists beliefs about rights were influenced by the writings of John Locke and other natural rights because they believed that the individual should have natural, unalienable rights that the government could not infringe on. So by adding the natural rights life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness were John Locke's influence on the constitution.

Three: A social contract is the people giving consent to the government to protect their rights in exchange for some of their rights. This is in relation to the concept of rights because in order for a social contract to work, a person gives up some of their rights in order to have the government protect thier natural rights and keep anyone else from infringing on them.

Re: Question #2 -- Reading #1 by Joshua RJoshua R, 30 Nov 2010 03:49

Text #1
George Washington - Letter to Robert Morris

Three Important Ideas:

  • I agree with Chardee & Evette that George Washington knew and wanted slavery to end.
  • George Washington had a plan for ending slavery by using Legislative Authority.
  • That even if the Slave owners continued to mistreat and abuse their slaves nothing really happened to the Slave Owners. They weren't punished for their actions.

Two ways this reading helps you answer your unit question(s)

  • It can be a source of evidence.
  • It can also help answer the overaching question on How the Framers created the constitution.

One question you still have about the reading

  • I thought that slaves couldn't read back then so why did George Washington write this letter to Robert Morris if he wasn't going to be able to read it?
Re: Question #1 -- Reading #1 by Alexus Alexus , 30 Nov 2010 03:45
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